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Thorvald

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Interesting.


The mustache and the teardrop tattoo that is...
 

Aphilas

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Well u dont remember it cause u where using it. We raided CC under TOP control every day back then without too much troubble, then suddenly we started getting pushed back and had to retreat and stuff in CC.

Then we could easily see what it was, 5-6 TOP/Outs on Molvas knocking people down while the 18 others spamm kills the one knocked down.

That was the biggest reason why people bitched about knockdowns, Molvas and Bullhorses back then.

Molvas got just as many knocks as bulls did.
Seems it's you who doesn't remember.
1. You didn't raid CC under TOP control back then without too much trouble. Myrm was away from the game. Came back into knockdown fiesta, raged and quit again. It was the come back when you took in Enigma/Cyde.
2. Molvas were horrible for knockdowns compared to bullhorses due to single knockdown taking all molvas stamina and then some into negative.
 

ThaBadMan

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Seems it's you who doesn't remember.
1. You didn't raid CC under TOP control back then without too much trouble. Myrm was away from the game. Came back into knockdown fiesta, raged and quit again. It was the come back when you took in Enigma/Cyde.
2. Molvas were horrible for knockdowns compared to bullhorses due to single knockdown taking all molvas stamina and then some into negative.
I remember me, Ang, Shara, Nite, War, Frox and Cyde died once one after once cause of knockdowns, only Cyde got away.

Then i remember me and Enigma losing our team at the bear crosroad due to Molvas and sneaking past ur patrols up behind big rock and the mountain side to the river. Then mountain side and tried to cross by the south wisents but spotted a patrol ao we went rat pass hill side. Fought and defeated 4-5 on guard duty and spran towards dapples when we where intersepted by a Molva squad that chain knocked me to death and let Enigma escape over the river and up the hilld towards Kranesh/Fab.

We always came into CC for a fight after the cities and TnA, we always went through CC raiding to go get Ascension in GK. After awhile we got repelled out of CC and Ascension stopped having their daily Myrm fights.
So the war against TOP came, Ascension/Mahti/Myrm came to siege TOPs keep as a warning to either delete all Molva receipts and stop using them.

We met at GK hotspots a TOP vanguard of 15 riders when we came out with 30 bloodthirsty reds, we fought first at the hotgates ending in 5 or so TOP dead.
At the hill down to the field of Nereb Medgulu/magefield fe fought the Van with 5-10 reinforcements ending in Red side losing 2-3 and TOP 10 leaving 5 or so retreating with our cavalry (Mostly Myrm/Mahti/RYN) at the cougar spawn we ran back with the site of the whole TOP army coming downhill.

We ran back to the magefield exit waiting for the main force.

We charged and met TOP(who had set potition at the top near Great Nat) at the rocks above cave den, a big battle around those rocks ensued ending in Red retreating down Nereb hill with TOP right behind.

Red stood ground at the trees waiting for TOP coming crusing down the hill.
Battle of the cougars ensued, Mahti/Myrm cavalry came from mountain side crushing into TOPs side and rear.
Battle looked great for Red pushing TOP upwards Nered hill.

When victory was near Wessex Reincorcements came from CC and Ely reincorcements from Bullhead Tunnel, Red surrounded from all side pushed quickly back to exit of Nereb Madgulu chasers closely behind.

At the mid of North Nereb Hill we gave orders to stand ground again, fought for 10-15 min but had to fall back again.

At the now "Risar camp" entrance we stood a last chance on the rocks and main force in the middle.

My flank pushed halfway into TOP forced but due to limited healing we had to retreat and made for the hotspots.

The main force had also retreated due to Outs push in the center(Molva Squad) and TOP where killing all stragglers.

Final push was already in place at hotspots exit but there was a stand by Mahti/Myrm/RYN cavalry ending in small enemy casualties and one rider on foot. escorting that guy through the canyon while harrassing both TOP Van and his chaserswas mostly uneventfully with a few closebys.

The last stand was now 100% ready with some deads rezzed and rejoined they where ready to hold this exit till last man. When Mahti/Myrm/RYN +1 came in TOP stopped.
Hailing arrows at our ranks with little effect ensued for a good 30 min.
We then had 8 archers climb the rocks above the pass exit and started shooting their archers all while our cavalry harrassing their flanks by running in and out and the occational hit or two.

TOP low on ammo and numbers decided to charge.
After 5-10 min pushing at the gates and the arrows from Ascension/Myrm archers was to much so they called for a full retreat to CC.

A full chase was then made ending in heavy TOP casualties and low Red casualties.

At the rocks at Great Nat a refreshed TOP/Wessex army was waiting. We ran home towards GK after a small skirmish at the cougars mostly mounted.

Our van reached our main force at pass to Mage field with the combined Wessex and TOP army.

We stood ground at the rocks, 2 min fighting and we where severly injured with a fresh force setting out of the equerry at GK.

I got personally down to mercy mode and fled to hotgates to rejoin with the reincements and met up with Zoltan there.

Top/Wessex was then on the way back to Moh Ki and TOP palisade.

We then had 20 mounted fighters ready so chased after them, hit TOP stragglers filled with loot at cougars and Wessex stragglers at Morin-Mage field. Then the fighting was done i believe.

But point is, u wouldnt have won half of those fights without ur Molva zerg tactic. Right after this Nightburn started making videos of Molva MA zerg.

Thats how it happened, right after that Bullhorses where OP i have a vid of that against u and SS. I personally tries to kill ur Molva i think. But if u see me hitting Raifics horse he is still alive after 6 70 dmg hits, Molvas had 3x that.
Thats why we used the hills and didnt run out in the open too much.


And just for u heres a vid from those times, notice how we(Myrm) stays close to the hills all the time ;)
 

Aphilas

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Just like I said in my post - Myrm at that point were no longer big players in overall "game" and you did not "raid CC without too much trouble". Yes, you still had couple excelent players like Shara or Angarato (admitedly both rusty from being away for a while), as well as newly joined Enigma and Cyde but real stuff at the time was happening between Ascension and Top/TnA. Which was already happening before Myrm came back, so you're wrong on that one as well.
Frankly, a new reds guild who resided in Kranesh at the time (sadly I don't remember the name - guild itself was shortlived and blended into AQ later on) provided better fights as well as better sportsmanship than Myrm back then. They posed bigger threat and fights actually ended with GGs instead of Angaratos rages. Then again, they had 6-7 guys of equal skill while you had huge gap between your good players and clowns that you recruited. Last part is obviously not aimed at Enigma and Cyde (the master and student:) ), but they weren't in Myrm for long either.

Yes, knockdowns were used to the extreme by TOP. Actually we had quite some trainings to excell at using combined mounted and foot fighting, specifically chasing down small groups. Judging by people still remembering it, we did it well. Was it skill-less play? Just as much as Myrm rolling on people with incisium gear in full cronite suits with large pots during beta. At the same time it's funny you are trying to argue about what was better for the tactic - mova or bullhorse with me, the guy who was running the biggest knockdown user group in game at the time.
 

ThaBadMan

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Just like I said in my post - Myrm at that point were no longer big players in overall "game" and you did not "raid CC without too much trouble". Yes, you still had couple excelent players like Shara or Angarato (admitedly both rusty from being away for a while), as well as newly joined Enigma and Cyde but real stuff at the time was happening between Ascension and Top/TnA. Which was already happening before Myrm came back, so you're wrong on that one as well.
Frankly, a new reds guild who resided in Kranesh at the time (sadly I don't remember the name - guild itself was shortlived and blended into AQ later on) provided better fights as well as better sportsmanship than Myrm back then. They posed bigger threat and fights actually ended with GGs instead of Angaratos rages. Then again, they had 6-7 guys of equal skill while you had huge gap between your good players and clowns that you recruited. Last part is obviously not aimed at Enigma and Cyde (the master and student:) ), but they weren't in Myrm for long either.

Yes, knockdowns were used to the extreme by TOP. Actually we had quite some trainings to excell at using combined mounted and foot fighting, specifically chasing down small groups. Judging by people still remembering it, we did it well. Was it skill-less play? Just as much as Myrm rolling on people with incisium gear in full cronite suits with large pots during beta. At the same time it's funny you are trying to argue about what was better for the tactic - mova or bullhorse with me, the guy who was running the biggest knockdown user group in game at the time.
I know we where shitty players that crushed TOP 6 VS 18+ at CC bridge remember ? We lost zero, right before Molva/Bull knockdown buffs.

Before u claim other players not good then atleast dont get destroyed by them when u have 3:1 odds.

If i remember correctly all Prophecy, AQ, CIR, TnA, 420, Reign and TT, all our enemies at the time all wore either steel or cronite armor aswell. So thats void.

Also it was only Enigma who didnt stay for long in Myrm both Kernir and Cyde stayed for long, even Enigma stayed alittle while.

Heres some vids to support my claim ;)

420:
TT:
AQ:
Various Groups including Energyo from TnA:
Reign:

Enjoy :D
 

Thorvald

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Damn knockdowns. Then again, at that time horses could run up hills and down hills and players could walk down hills without getting stuck on every single crack.

Good nostalgia though. Thx for reposting.
 

ThaBadMan

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Damn knockdowns. Then again, at that time horses could run up hills and down hills and players could walk down hills without getting stuck on every single crack.

Good nostalgia though. Thx for reposting.
Mhm good times ;)
 

Aphilas

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I know we where shitty players that crushed TOP 6 VS 18+ at CC bridge remember ? We lost zero, right before Molva/Bull knockdown buffs.
Before u claim other players not good then atleast dont get destroyed by them when u have 3:1 odds.
You sure remember a single won battle for ages. Mind you, since your memory is so damn good, you should remember that the fight took place about 1-2 months after release. Quite a bit before Bullhorse/Molvas. Actually Myrms good players took a couple month break before coming back into Molvas/Bullhorses and you running around with clowns like BlackMage, L, Retox, Froxer. I think Shara/Angarato refusing to run alongside your new recruits majority of the time said it all.

If i remember correctly all Prophecy, AQ, CIR, TnA, 420, Reign and TT, all our enemies at the time all wore either steel or cronite armor aswell. So thats void.
Prophecy had abundance of cronite during beta, yes. From same source as Myrm.
AQ/Reign - frankly I can't remember them from beta at all. So will not comment.
TT - I was main metal crafter in TT. We've never produced or had cronite during beta besides looting from Myrm/Prophepcy. Steel and some TU weapons by the end of beta, steel used only for helmets.

Btw, nice vids with certainly not a lot of knockdowns. Kinda hillarious how knockdowns during beta were fine to Myrm because they used it, but when getting buttraped my molvas/bullhorses it was knockdown OP QQ.
 

ThaBadMan

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You sure remember a single won battle for ages. Mind you, since your memory is so damn good, you should remember that the fight took place about 1-2 months after release. Quite a bit before Bullhorse/Molvas. Actually Myrms good players took a couple month break before coming back into Molvas/Bullhorses and you running around with clowns like BlackMage, L, Retox, Froxer. I think Shara/Angarato refusing to run alongside your new recruits majority of the time said it all.



Prophecy had abundance of cronite during beta, yes. From same source as Myrm.
AQ/Reign - frankly I can't remember them from beta at all. So will not comment.
TT - I was main metal crafter in TT. We've never produced or had cronite during beta besides looting from Myrm/Prophepcy. Steel and some TU weapons by the end of beta, steel used only for helmets.

Btw, nice vids with certainly not a lot of knockdowns. Kinda hillarious how knockdowns during beta were fine to Myrm because they used it, but when getting buttraped my molvas/bullhorses it was knockdown OP QQ.
I always remember a good fight mate ;) But my point from it was that molvas was ur major winning factor during that time, that is why u got all the red guilds on ur door step knocking ur shit down (have old fraps of the aftermath after the breach) that was the only time in MO history Myrm and AQ/Reign/Mahti ever joined up on the same side like that.

The reason Shara and Ang didnt play too much with L, BM and them is that L, Retox, Frox and Blackmage all play American but Shara and Ang plays during EU timezone.

I know cause i played from late EU to mid US times back then.

If u made it or not does not mean u didnt have and use it in fights, i never once farmed big pots, i got all my stock from TheMap from Proph who dropped 300 that i still have more of to this day. I never did anything to get them still i used them in combat. Just like most of my cronies.

Anyway when we used knockdowns, we used steppes so it was normal, but u used special knockdown animals for that purpose which makes it wrong, just like mage zergs, earthquake spamming, machine gun bows and poles. That is using a thing to achieve victory because u know u cant win by playing normally. We did so with pokey sticks but eventually everyone did, i even stopped using them and went back to thrusting blades because it was easy mode with mercy daggers.

And im glad u enjoyed the vids, good old times. hehe
 

Aphilas

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I always remember a good fight mate ;) But my point from it was that molvas was ur major winning factor during that time, that is why u got all the red guilds on ur door step knocking ur shit down (have old fraps of the aftermath after the breach) that was the only time in MO history Myrm and AQ/Reign/Mahti ever joined up on the same side like that.
Please show me that video of you "knocking ur shit down" since as long as I played TOP didn't lose a single asset except couple gates. One of them to Myrm, the other one to RUS with broken beatsticks. Ohh, you forgot that you grouped with RUS too? Yes, not quite comfortable knowing RUS background and not quite fitting into "us reds" story.


If u made it or not does not mean u didnt have and use it in fights, i never once farmed big pots, i got all my stock from TheMap from Proph who dropped 300 that i still have more of to this day. I never did anything to get them still i used them in combat. Just like most of my cronies.
Did TheMap actually play after release? Since I find it hard to believe you carried the pots and cronite over from beta.

Anyway when we used knockdowns, we used steppes so it was normal, but u used special knockdown animals for that purpose which makes it wrong, just like mage zergs, earthquake spamming, machine gun bows and poles.
Using special animal which was designed to use for knockdowns makes it wrong. I see. Pardon the fuck, but wasn't it Godly who invented machine gun bows?

That is using a thing to achieve victory because u know u cant win by playing normally. We did so with pokey sticks but eventually everyone did, i even stopped using them and went back to thrusting blades because it was easy mode with mercy daggers.
Thrusting blade was pokey stick, all the way from beta. Btw, do you mind defining "normal" play? Stop being ridiculous. Every group of players used everything at their hand during different times in this game to achieve victory. Just because everyone is not running with spam thrusting blade like in so awesome combat times during beta doesn't mean they are not playing the game normally.
Furthermore, I find it hillarious to hear you talking about some kind of standarts when you played alongside with such people as BlackMage, L and RUS. High five for high standarts bro.
 

KhaoticKaos

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It's like watching two people that suck argue over who sucks more.

Oh wait that's exactly what it is.

I can't believe you guys care enough to type all that out, wow.
 

Player

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those videos are fucking atrocious & make current release look like a gem.
 

audric

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Whenever you get BadMan in an argument that references Myrmidon at all, a sheet of arrogance shrouds his opinions.
 
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xkrakenx

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actually u guys are mad cuz im beautiful
 

Xar

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The molva is and so are you. no homo.


greetings
 

ThaBadMan

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Please show me that video of you "knocking ur shit down" since as long as I played TOP didn't lose a single asset except couple gates. One of them to Myrm, the other one to RUS with broken beatsticks. Ohh, you forgot that you grouped with RUS too? Yes, not quite comfortable knowing RUS background and not quite fitting into "us reds" story.



Did TheMap actually play after release? Since I find it hard to believe you carried the pots and cronite over from beta.

Using special animal which was designed to use for knockdowns makes it wrong. I see. Pardon the fuck, but wasn't it Godly who invented machine gun bows?

Thrusting blade was pokey stick, all the way from beta. Btw, do you mind defining "normal" play? Stop being ridiculous. Every group of players used everything at their hand during different times in this game to achieve victory. Just because everyone is not running with spam thrusting blade like in so awesome combat times during beta doesn't mean they are not playing the game normally.
Furthermore, I find it hillarious to hear you talking about some kind of standarts when you played alongside with such people as BlackMage, L and RUS. High five for high standarts bro.
We attacked TOP keep taking out half of the main side walls and killed and sacked the entire TOP palisade.
We didnt do more because it was only meant as a warning, but i do believe Ascension took down all houses with stables abit later but not sure about that one since i wasnt part of it.
But here it is:

The Kranesh guild ur thinking about is BRB who was a guild very much alike to Myrm and we had many good fights against them ending close every time. We later joined together and some Myrms joined BRB when Myrms core left again.

Heres a vid of TheMap ingame a long time after release:
So yes he did play after release multiple times.

Thrusting blade was not pokey stick, the mercy dagger and thrusting blade on long handle making it a polearm was quite OP, but the thrusting blade on 1h handles where not OP they where more on par with the greatblades.

L and BM kept it together while in Myrm so what they did before and after has really nothing to do with Myrm or Myrms standards, they are both great fighters and thats how they got accepted. Same with RUS, the few times (cant really recall more than once) Myrm and RUS grouped together they did nothing shady so why bring that up when we are talking about Myrm and TOP ?

Anyway i think we have been offtopic more than enough in this thread.
 
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